Thread:Robert Alvarez/@comment-8-20140923230618/@comment-8-20141028004322

Fumnov wrote:

In general I will say if this site going to accept non US covers, if it going to cover non-US comics, the Wikia is going to have to consider being more accepting of covers that don't meet your special standards. Otherwise this will only remain a US content-only site.

We are being considerably more accepting of covers than we are of other content. In general, we don't accept nudity, including bare breasts. Here we have accepted everything other than a porn cover ("Male") and one that strongly implies bestiality. All others have been restored, either after a review, or because they were mistakenly deleted by someone who wasn't aware of the special conditions for this wikia.

I have some concerns about images that don't seem to be the whole cover, the "art" exception should mean that the whole thing is shown rather than just the main image. But so far I've passed images like that as long as they are part of the cover and not from the magazine's inner pages.

Also, remember that it's easier to delete than to create (upload). :)

Are you aware of the undelete system? You can get to it via the "view/restore" links on the deletion log, and it allows you to both view the content (click the dates) and easily restore it. You can also selectively restore versions of the file/page. example page

As I mentioned (and I hope you can look at them) other US sites (comicvine) have these international covers. Yes, other sites have different standards for their content, that doesn't affect where we have chosen to place our line. To say we must be the same as those other sites, is to say that all movies must be NC-17 because some are. Our Terms of Use put us closer to PG-13, although there are exceptions as with nudity on this wikia.

I would consider a Warning label of a sort. There were traffic concerns (if I remember correctly). We aren't currently adding those, for the reasons you mention.

However I am not at all in favour of linking out to some other source. Does that mean someone will have to ask staff each time whether a specific image is ok or whether it needs linking out? Simply to meet some very specific standards (not universally applied in the US)? The whole idea seems to only create problems for the wiki. No, I'm not asking you to check with staff. If the image is of a cover, and shows adult nudity but not actual sexual content, then it's fine. If covers come through our review system that are stronger than that, we are likely to delete. If we delete, and you disagree with the deletion, then you are welcome to ask for a second review.

I know that's not ideal in terms of you having to watch for deletions and then challenge any you disagree with, but as I explained above, we can't talk about each one in advance.

Hopefully there will be less to chanalge in the future anyway, as we get used to the wiki and its exceptions.